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Username Post: musical people/teachers - help?        (Topic#325334)
RedSquirrel 
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02-08-13 09:51 AM - Post#4046176    

I had a new choir friend come over this morning to go over some of the hymns for Sunday. I discovered that she can pitch from the E above middle C upwards, and the G below middle C downwards, but not those few notes in between. She just can't tell that she isn't singing the right note, just can't hear it. How weird is that? I've never come across it before.

Is there any way I can teach her the notes? Any techniques I can use?

 
3 Little Ladies 
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02-08-13 10:17 AM - Post#4046188    
    In response to RedSquirrel

I know what you're talking about, but have no idea how to help her other then playing the notes on a piano along with her. I never took vocal lessons. I have instrumental experience, very different.

 
RedSquirrel 
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02-08-13 10:22 AM - Post#4046196    
    In response to 3 Little Ladies

I was playing the notes on the keyboard. I was playing a C, she was singing, I don't know, a low E flat. I kept playing the C, she realised she was singing the wrong note and changed it to, say the D above. She only realised she wasn't getting it because I kept playing it instead of going onto a different note.

She also couldn't sing a scale, either or down, with or without the piano.

 
kaleidoscope 
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02-08-13 11:30 AM - Post#4046228    
    In response to RedSquirrel

Maybe she's tone deaf(?) to that range.

I'm no help. I'm about as unmusically talented as you can get.

 
RedSquirrel 
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02-08-13 11:53 AM - Post#4046234    
    In response to kaleidoscope

It seemed exactly like that Tam. I've never come across that before - I didn't know it was possible.

I wonder whether anything can be done? She really wants to sing. She loves singing and she wants to get better, and she actually has a strong voice with a nice tone to it.

 
kaleidoscope 
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02-08-13 12:27 PM - Post#4046242    
    In response to RedSquirrel

maybe she will need a vocal coach/trainer to help her practice recognizing it and capturing it with her voice. It will probably take repetitive training (like when you learn to type and you have to hit f f f f j j j j )

 
Kimberly M 
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02-08-13 07:06 PM - Post#4046300    
    In response to kaleidoscope

I'm not sure how likely it is that she's tone deaf. A tone deaf person can't distinguish differences in pitch and I've never heard of someone who can hear the differences in some pitches but not others. Who knows though? My first thought is she may just need to exercise her vocal chords used in her "chest vocice" and get more comfortable matching them to the music she is singing. Your chest voice is your common “talking” voice. It is the “normal” register that is mostly used and you can feel that voice resonating or vibrating in your chest. Does she sing Soprano?

This is a good video for working on your vocal range.
http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-increase- your-...

 
RedSquirrel 
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02-09-13 05:11 AM - Post#4046344    
    In response to Kimberly M

Her singing range is from the C below to the C above middle C. Quite small at the moment. Her speaking voice is low, a good third or fourth lower than middle C and she automatically drops an octave (ish ) when the tune gets too high for her. She was put in the altos with me, but I'm wondering whether she would be better with the tenors.

I was wondering whether she had a catch in her voice at around the middle C level. I have one at C/D above but I can pitch it no problem, it's just that my voice doesn't want to sing it sometimes. I was taught in Oz that singing a downward scale through those notes helps the catch, and it does. But my friend here can't even sing a scale!

Off to look at that video. Thanks Kim!

 
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