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kaleidoscope 
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12-03-12 08:17 AM - Post#4029178    

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachuse tts/201...

I think administrators in charge of education are idiots.

 
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12-03-12 08:24 AM - Post#4029182    
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So in Indiana (not one of the 5 states) we go to school 185 days. That would mean increasing the day by over 1 1/2 hours. My kids are in school from 8:00 to 3:40, 7 hours 40 min. That would mean over 9 hours a day. INSANE! And to think of bus kids...we have another 40 min each way on the bus!

 
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12-03-12 08:45 AM - Post#4029190    
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We have 180 days. 6 hours 48 minutes. We have block scheduling. They're required to do 24 hours of community service before graduating and starting with my daughter's class, they have to have it completed before being promoted to junior year. I need to find out how this is even recorded because nothing has been filled out. She's been doing special olympics with us so she's beyond her 24 hours, plus what she's done for 4H.

 
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12-03-12 08:48 AM - Post#4029194    
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Our school also requires a senior project.

 
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12-03-12 09:09 AM - Post#4029196    
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That's crazy! What about after school activities? I dont think longer days is the answer. They need to work to improve the curriculum.

 
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12-03-12 05:02 PM - Post#4029372    
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  • Luvmyvespa Said:
So in Indiana (not one of the 5 states) we go to school 185 days. That would mean increasing the day by over 1 1/2 hours. My kids are in school from 8:00 to 3:40, 7 hours 40 min. That would mean over 9 hours a day. INSANE! And to think of bus kids...we have another 40 min each way on the bus!




On the flip side, we're in class for 180 days (teachers go for 190) and Elementary starts at 8:30 and gets out at 2:35 while Middle starts between 745 and 8 and is done by 2. I would love to see our school day extended by a good hour a day.

 
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12-03-12 05:54 PM - Post#4029392    
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I think I can answer the community service hours.
My kids got their community service hours from Scouts, volunteering at the animal shelter, Toys for Tots, and helping set up for Project Grad.
The kids would have to get a community service form from their school counselor, and have their hours signed off by the person in charge, ie Scout Master, animal shelter director, or volunteer coordinator. My kids would get 3-4 forms a semester and when they volunteered for something they could have the person in charge fill out the form, and the kids would then turn in the form to their school counselor.

 
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12-03-12 06:41 PM - Post#4029406    
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My daughter hasn't been given forms unless maybe they are in the handbook/planner thingy. But as far as I know they didn't send a letter home about the change to when it had to be completed by unless hubby didn't notice it or read all the papers properly at the beginning of the year.

 
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12-04-12 12:04 AM - Post#4029442    
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Don't wait on the school to hand out the forms or even give you the proper information. Talk to your daughters counselor. When I worked for the school district, I heard so many stories (not good) about high school seniors who had to scramble to get the required number hours of community service just weeks before graduation.
Make sure you make a copy of the signed community service record.
















 
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12-04-12 06:18 AM - Post#4029446    
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Thanks. At least it's all done and it wouldn't be hard to get documented because she was a partner for our team games. And the stuff with 4H. Just this past Sept. she and I did an 8 1/2 hr shift for the bbq at the fair.

 
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12-06-12 04:38 AM - Post#4030002    
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So I am not the only one who thinks this is crazy? I looked at the guidelines for CT and how they are going to pay for it. They want the teachers to have staggered schedules and they are going to have to negotiate collective bargaining rights. They also want blended classrooms-which we already have and I have to say, they do not work that well-especially if you don't have support staff. And in my town, they are trying to cut support staff. As a parent and a tax payer, this has me kicking and screaming!!!

This is only a pilot here right now in 3 districts but from what I have heard, the commissioner of education wants to make this permanent across the board. Should be interesting because from what studies show, more time is not the answer. I am going to say something un politically correct here so feel free to flame away. The haves are having to pay once again for the have nots. I am getting tired of the Nanny State.

 
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12-06-12 04:47 AM - Post#4030004    
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"The project comes as educators across the U.S. struggle to identify the best ways to strengthen a public education system that many fear has fallen behind other nations. Student testing, teacher evaluations, charter schools and voucher programs join longer school days on the list of reforms that have been put forward with varying degrees of success."

Part of the reason that the US is falling behind other nations is they count all the school populations in their "testing scores." Most other countries do not have Spec Ed in regular public education and do not count them in their scores. How fair is that to be judged not on equal terms?

I know this has been a problem for our district schools, who have a fabulous curriculum and at the HS level, a lot of extra support. The sub set population always take the scores down. One reason I don't like testing because the kids have made gains each year-but to their level, not to some arbitrary state level. It is infuriating. I am of the belief that each child learns differently and should be looked at individually, not as a group. If a child has made gains, you cannot always see it in a test score!!

Edited by Nora on 12-06-12 04:51 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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12-06-12 07:07 AM - Post#4030026    
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  • Nora Said:
Should be interesting because from what studies show, more time is not the answer. I am going to say something un politically correct here so feel free to flame away. The haves are having to pay once again for the have nots. I am getting tired of the Nanny State.



In this case, it's not just about money/paying for it... those who don't need the extra time (which, as we agree, is not the answer) are having to suffer for those who do.

And if they're going to spend more money anyway (that we don't have) then it needs to go for more support and smaller classrooms/groups with more hands-on learning, not longer time in a classroom.

Why is it the higher up the food chain you go, they seem to be stupider and more wasteful?? (This is a more general statement across the board in all areas of government and administration.)

 
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12-06-12 12:43 PM - Post#4030184    
    In response to kaleidoscope

They didn't mention MO, but a school in my sister's district is testing a longer day/shorter week this year. I don't know the hours but they only go M-Th. I don't really think that's a great idea either.

 
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